Design of 2028 Camaro, Buick, & Caddy Fastback Sedans

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If the Camaro, Buick, and Caddy all go with a Fastback hatch sedan style. My guess these are the design themes embraced on each variant.

Caddy likely using the Celestiq as styling source and Buick using the Orbit concept for inspiration.

I would expect these to be base model prices and motor specs. Only Camaro has basic 4 cyl with a manual for base version. I would think Buick & Caddy base models will be the equivalent of a mid-trim Camaro but with higher levels of luxury as standard.

Camaro = 2.7 4 cyl (base) $35,000

Caddy = 2.7 4cly + e-motor (base) $55,000

Buick = 2.7 4 cyl+ e-motor (base) $49,000

 

[arpad_m]

I've always struggled with placing the Buick on the map, because I find it hard to visualize their target audience. It isn't particularly good or cheap or fast or elegant or luxurious... I'm not sure why GM would insist on that third choice this time.

Even dIsregarding the hideous wheels, that Camaro concept looks like a grotesquely elongated 4-door Supra, it has to be, otherwise not even would the driver fit, let alone rear passengers. Try to imagine the rear seatback in that concept, or how that rear door would open, or how minuscule the trunk would be if isn't a hatchback (and if it is, there's absolutely no rear headroom), so it would have to look like the 2nd and 3rd renderings.

Anyway, I have Edsall's excellent 2016 Camaro book ("Chevrolet's Modern Performance Car"), it's full of 6th gen concept designs, and there is a clear convergence from some initial "space age" designs towards an end result that can actually be manufactured.

This Camaro concept above looks like one of the former stages, clearly not something GM would implement. Either the actual design is still kept hush-hush, or the car is still 2-3 years off.

 

[ARC]

I view the Camaro concept as an extreme design theme.

It will have to fit on the longer CT5 platform and therefore become more conventional in the process. Just like the Buick would lose the extreme rear end.

 

[bbrriiaann1973]

I've always struggled with placing the Buick on the map, because I find it hard to visualize their target audience. It isn't particularly good or cheap or fast or elegant or luxurious... I'm not sure why GM would insist on that third choice this time.

Even dIsregarding the hideous wheels, that Camaro concept looks like a grotesquely elongated 4-door Supra, it has to be, otherwise not even would the driver fit, let alone rear passengers. Try to imagine the rear seatback in that concept, or how that rear door would open, or how minuscule the trunk would be if isn't a hatchback (and if it is, there's absolutely no rear headroom), so it would have to look like the 2nd and 3rd renderings.

Anyway, I have Edsall's excellent 2016 Camaro book ("Chevrolet's Modern Performance Car"), it's full of 6th gen concept designs, and there is a clear convergence from some initial "space age" designs towards an end result that can actually be manufactured.

This Camaro concept above looks like one of the former stages, clearly not something GM would implement. Either the actual design is still kept hush-hush, or the car is still 2-3 years off.

Why do people always focus on the size of the trunk? If you need more space then clearly a performance sedan is not for you!

 

[arpad_m]

I sure don't care and my trunk is mostly empty, although I was able to squeeze 4 carry-ons and some extra bags in there last time we moved.

However, many potential buyers will want to put stuff in there, and this was one of the main complaints about the 6th gen despite its adequate trunk space (the narrow opening was a design flaw, they should've split the taillights BMW style).

GM most likely can't afford another trunkless sports car, the Corvette is already heavily compromised.

Why do people always focus on the size of the trunk? If you need more space then clearly a performance sedan is not for you!

 

[Stonehauler]

Why do people always focus on the size of the trunk? If you need more space then clearly a performance sedan is not for you!

because the people with the money to buy these cars actually want to be able to throw a couple sets of golf clubs in the trunk and head out to the course...or throw some suitcases (not just a carry on) in the truck take it on a road trip. Both the M3 and the M5 have a sizable truck space available, and that carries over (or is carried over) from the more "plebeian" but still very exciting M340 and 550. And no, I've never owned an M3 or an M5.

 

[ARC]

Here's my Ai render of what I think the 2028 Camaro Sedan could realistically look like.

 

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2028 Camaro Sedan in Rapid Blue - Ai Concept

 

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My take on the 2028 Camaro Sedan

 

[bbrriiaann1973]

Here's my Ai render of what I think the 2028 Camaro Sedan could realistically look like.

Then like I said you need a different car! Just because another manufacturer does this or that should not have anything to do with what GM does! In fact why are people even talking about other cars on a Camaro site! The new camaro weather it's 2 door or 4 door version should be based on performance first, then creature comforts! This is the reason performance cars have gotten so dig and heavy. They try to fit one size fits all! This practice needs to stop! Build the fastest camaro GM can and let people that need more space buy a minivan!!!

 

[bishopts]

What if they do the non traditional 4 door like how the saturn ion and mazda rx8 was. Open the front to gain access to the handle to open the back. Quad coupe was what saturn called it. It was a very useful design for backseat access and let the car still look like a coupe.

 

[bbrriiaann1973]

I sure don't care and my trunk is mostly empty, although I was able to squeeze 4 carry-ons and some extra bags in there last time we moved.

However, many potential buyers will want to put stuff in there, and this was one of the main complaints about the 6th gen despite its adequate trunk space (the narrow opening was a design flaw, they should've split the taillights BMW style).

GM most likely can't afford another trunkless sports car, the Corvette is already heavily compromised.

My C8 Zo6 has plenty of room, it allows me to what I need to do based on what the C8 was originally designed to do. And the camaro should have the same approach! Performance first!

 

[bbrriiaann1973]

What if they do the non traditional 4 door like how the saturn ion and mazda rx8 was. Open the front to gain access to the handle to open the back. Quad coupe was what saturn called it. It was a very useful design for backseat access and let the car still look like a coupe.

I like that idea but don't think most camaro fans would be ok with it

 

[Stonehauler]

I like that idea but don't think most camaro fans would be ok with it

That’s the whole problem. There are not enough “Camaro fans” to support the car. If there were, it would not have been killed off…twice.

If GM decided to repeat itself, it will fail a third time. The segment is nearly dead already. Even without competition, the Mustang only did what…45k last year? With the Camaro. I would expect GM to steal maybe 15k, gain another 5k from new customers…maybe. In the end though. That 20k isn’t enough. CT4 customers are not going to go for a Camaro, they will go CT5, or head to BMW or Mercedes.

Camaro needs to become a 4 season vehicle that can be driven in a spirited manner, yet retains enough manners to behave itself. In other words…something more akin to the 2023 Charger/Challenger (current Charger/challenger is way too big). 116 inch wheelbase is just about perfect. 3 and 5 door fastback hatch for the Camaro, looking back on the 2nd and third gen versions as inspiration. The Buick can be more traditional sedan, allowing for a police version. CT5 has a refined version, and a fire breathing Blackwing that has 750-800 hp…possibly by using an emotor in addition to the ICE, or just all engine.

all three would have base motors…either the 2.0 or the 3.0 with 320 hp, and the new 6.7 with slight detuning for Chevy and Buick. Halo cars can exist for all three